I don't think there are many interviews with Glenn Cornick. I made one in March 2007 and
I think it's an interesting testimony...
I met Glenn Cornick in September 2006, at the
Jethro Tull Convention in Novi Ligure.
His availability led me to write to him in
the following months to establish contact.
His kind reply confirmed my first impressions
and encouraged me to ask him a few questions.
He responded quickly and took the technical
time to tell me his.
He did it in two episodes, but within a week
he completed the work.
Here is the summary of our chat ...
Thank
you Glenn for your availability. Let's start with some general questions.
For
some time I have been devoting myself to reading about the great musicians born
in the late 1960s, some of which are still in full swing.
It
emerges that so many valuable musicians were born in the same period, maybe
schoolmates. How do you explain this proliferation of musical talents, at the
same time, all of them successful and all between the 1960s and the 1970s? What
differences are there today compared to then?
Now everyone has a
huge amount of material and lots of possibilities.
At the beginning
we didn't know much and we had to reinvent ourselves every day in order to
continue. That's why a lot of new ideas came out.
It is much more
difficult now, since so much has been done in the last 40 years.
Moreover, in those
days there was a great musical stage for those who wanted to develop new ideas,
and all the musicians were friends and it was customary to encourage each
other, drawing great inspiration from this.
The
same readings provide another common element (perhaps the Tull were different
in this), the dissolute life, full of excesses, without any care of one's
physical and mental health. Do you think this type of self-destruction was a
necessary step to achieve success?
Do you
think the abuse of illegal substances has been judged by the artists needed to
improve performance and creativity?
The Jethro Tull
were always been very "clean". Almost no drugs and few parties.
If this had not
been the case we could not have survived. When we were on
tour in America we played in 30 different cities in 30 days.
We had to go back
to the hotel around 11pm and get up in the morning at 6am for breakfast, and
immediately at the airport for another flight to a new city.
As soon as we
landed, we went to the place where we would perform in the evening, to make
sure everything was in place and make the sound check.
After all this it
took 3 or 4 hours to rest in the afternoon, in a hotel that we then left at
7pm, to return "to work". As you can guess,
there was no time left for anything other than concerts and their preparation.
I can't speak for
others, but I play better when I have full control of myself.
I like to drink 1
or 2 beers before going on stage, but no more than that.
I have seen many
friends die due to alcohol and drug abuse, and it saddens me, but I have to
think it was their choice.
And now
something more personal.
Stories
are told that Glenn Cornick's separation from the JT came about because of a
kind of incompatibility of character between you and other members of the group
who had a lifestyle totally different from yours, being more led to fun and
rebellion.
What
does this mean, if it is true: extreme rigidity of behavior on the part of the
rest of the band, difficulty of cohabitation with Ian or desire to try to
"walk alone"?
I was never told
why I was fired from the band.
Of course, I
really wanted to have fun, but that wasn't a problem for others, except for
Ian. Clive and John are still two of my best friends and I really like Martin,
although I don't have many opportunities to see him. It has been said that I
was a fun person, but if I look at the evolution of the group over the years, I
think of people who are addicted to alcohol, drugs and "women
hunters" who have outdone me and gone well beyond my maximum limit.
What
were the best Jethro Tulls, in your opinion?
In my opinion the best time was that of my last
months, when we realized "Benefit" and we played at Carnagie Hall and on the
Isle of Wight.
My exit coincides with the closing of a cycle and
the passage of J.T. from the rock and roll band to the group immersed in the
big show businnes circus.
And
which was the best bass player?
Excuse me, but for
the music of J.T. no one was better than me.
Once someone asked
me what Tull song I had played and I replied: "If you listen to a J.T. song, and hear the bass sing,
then it's me who plays".
I saw
you play at the Novi Convention with some of your former comrades, but also
with John Weathers, a former Gentle Giant. How are these collaborations between
musicians born? Is it just respect and esteem or does friendship play an
important role?
Pugwash was the
first drummer of Wild Turkey before moving on to Gentle Giant, so playing with
him at the convention was a kind of reunion.
You know that now
he suffers from multiple sclerosis and therefore he cannot take care of the
whole battery and this is why he played percussion.
He has always been
my favorite drummer. And then it's always fun to play with old friends.
Does
friendship exist in the world of rock music?
Yes, although I don't
think there are many opportunities at present, since there aren't many places,
clubs or anything else where musicians can meet.
In 1969 in London,
every musician was friends with every other musician, and everyone tried to see
the performances of others, helping anyone in need.
He really was like
a big family.
In the USA we had
a special bond with the Mountain and we used to arrange our pieces together.
One day we closed their show and the next day they closed ours. There was no
competition between us.
For
many years you've been out of the stars system. Why? Lack of motivation and
disappointment or your priorities have changed and have you preferred to
dedicate yourself to the family?
I never stopped
playing but unfortunately I couldn't find any great projects to work on.
In the last 30
years I have traveled all over California, following different projects and
having a lot of fun playing.
What
did Wild Turkey represent for you and what do they represent right now?
Wild Turkey was
really my chance to make the music I love and gave me the opportunity to play
with great musicians.
In the new album I
was able to write almost all the pieces and I also designed the cover and so it
became a real personal project.
What is
your relationship with Ian Anderson today?
We have never been
close friends, although there has never been an unpleasant relationship between
us.
I heard
different definitions of "Progressive Music": what is yours?
In the '60s and'
70s the "progressive rock was not the main genre and therefore was not
interpreted by all those who played, but today with this term we want to
identify groups that played or play very complex songs, divided into different
sections often complicated, in writing and execution.
I'm not a lover of
Prog Rock and I don't think that among the things I wrote there is really prog
music, according to traditional standards.
I prefer much more
direct songs.
I think it is much
more difficult to write short, simple songs, but good songs, and what I try to
do is write pop songs that can last over time.
Do you
think Jethro Tull can be considered a Rock Progressive band, or ... how would
you define them?
I believe that
none of the Tull pieces of "my times" can be defined progressive
according to the current canons, and it was only with "Thick as a Brick" that
J.T. they became a "prog rock band".
What
are your future projects?
I hope I can continue playing with Wild Turkey. I
wish I could record many albums and do a lot of tours. I feel like I can write
like I've never done in my life and that the last album, "You and me in the
Jungle", is the best thing I've ever done.
One
last question, what is your concept of happiness applied to music?
Music and
happiness? The most important thing is to be satisfied with the things you play
with the right people, but honestly it's also good to be successful and even...
make some money.
Becoming
successful musicians gives you the opportunity to do many more things and
invest in different projects.
I thank
Glen Cornick, but I cannot give up his thoughts on John Pugwash Weathers, a
feeling already expressed in another interview, but that he wanted to
reiterate.
Pugwash is by far the best drummer I've ever played
with and I wanted to involve him in this project although, obviously, he can't
play the drums completely, due to the known problems. I had the idea of using
a percussion section in the middle of the song "You and Me in the
Jungle", but I had no idea how to insert it, so I asked Pug if he wanted
to contribute. He came to the studio and, with the help of Clive, made a great
arrangement.
It was his idea to add the slide guitar, so he
asked Mick to try something and what is heard on the record is the first test
performed: the result was so good that no other recordings were needed.
Pugwash is a full member of the group and comes to
play with us whenever his physical condition allows it. He has great talent and
is a wonderful help for us all.
During this interview a question related to
the existence of friendship in the world of rock music and this last
"image" dedicated to Pugwash seems to me to be really exhaustive.
Or is Glenn really different?